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What all do we want on the Wiki?

With a little help we've talked about an excel sheet for creating custom Morphs...

Other things is
Do we want to start posting some of the errata and such?
What about some of the basic rules and samples from the book? Perhaps for clarity reasons.
Maybe we want to stick to player created stuff...

I'm interested in adding some tools and player created things but not sure what else. There is a lot we can put up and even more that we can create that would still fit in.

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Well, I plan on writing some story material for use from my group's upcoming games. It's going to be posted up with the intention of letting other players use ideas that works for us (if they want), or just to look at and have a starting point to post their own material.

If this seems like a direction people here don't want to take things, I'll be happy to take it down, but it seems like a great way to use the Creative Commons ideal of the game to it's fullest and to allow this place to grow into something unique.

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Errata would be great to have on the wiki - if only for quick easy access.

Alternate rules and player created stuff also handy.

Considering how useful the SRD20 was to other players for other games - if we mimic that, I think it may well be worth it.

Do you think it worthwhile to consolidate on certain tags to differentiate between published and fan-sourced material?

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Of course Published and fan created material should be distinguished.

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Are there any other categories of articles we should agree on specific tags for?

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Might be a good idea to make flags for different campaign styles and the like.

Some things might be games that include Shadowrun and Earth Dawn back story elements.

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I definitely think we should have a list of lists for H+ (transhuman) based stuff. Maybe take the references section from the book as categories with a list of links under each.

I found some of Charles Stross' stories which are one of the basis for EP and the posting the links would be good (both are legal links, one is his website, and the other is a magazine article he did). There is plenty other information out there and it would be nice to get that in categories (or atleast a list of check out these other places).

@Janus: As far as I am concerned, write and post away. It may inspire others. I'll hopefully be doing the same. I have a campaign idea brewing, but not a plot!

@bastlynn: Basically all I can do is sum up what the others said. The following tags work for me: rules, story, alternate campaign, CC licensed to Posthuman/Catalyst, fan based, explanations/clarifications, errata etc. If there was a way we could start off with a few like the above, then have the ability to add tags or submit requests for more tags.

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Tags are freely generated - so from a technical point of view you can tag things with whatever you need to. But if you compose a list of good standards to adopt, I'll add that to the syntax guide for easy reference for contributors.

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Can we combine tags... so one could post a wiki article on the how to use the economy with the tags rules and explanation?

Or should a tag be a complete thought like "rules explanation" or "fan created rule"?

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As many tags as you want - just separate them with commas. So the articles can be cross referenced across multiple tags pretty easily.

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Ok - I'm going to add the following tags to our recommended tag syntax on the wiki:

srd, errata, house rule, alt-setting

srd - Meant for System Resource Documents, tables, canon references, reference indexes, etc. Stuff published by the original authors.

errata - Official rule fixes. Errata posts may / should also be marked with srd.

house+rule - This is the fan based erratas, rules, etc. Not all fan material Must be marked with house-rule, but it's useful if you just want the new stuff.

alt-setting - Meant for alternative versions of the EP setting. For example, a setting where EP is the extension of the Earthdawn - Shadowrun universe.

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I was thinking that there are a couple of prongs.
(I'm kinda time strapped so I commit to nothing)...

There should be an "official" tag (same as SRD?). Otherwise stuff should just be assumed to be house rules.
We should have some sort of policy about how much is OK to post word for word.

There should be a spoilers tag and we should be pretty serious about keeping spoilers walled off. So if someone is a player they can wander around without finding big secrets of the GMs section too easily.

Prong 1: Getting a skeleton of official stuff up. We don't want to duplicate everything in the book (unless it's allowed under the SRD) but there needs to be a sort of skeleton of offical stuff. Hypercorps, major habitats, organizations.
So if someone creates their own hypercorp it's easy to reference Cognite or whatever (so someone reading that work can easily be reminded who Cognite is, etc)

2. New stuff
I think that trawling the existing message boards for stuff is probably the fastest/easiest way to get new content. I did that for Codebreakers morph's. There's another habitat thread on rpg.now that I keep meaning to look at. Looking for [Eclipse Phase] in the subjects of other threads will probably turn up more.
And I think there's a lot of good stuff on the main EP boards.
As a protocol I suggest:
1) post to the thread in question, with a link to the stuff you've posted, "I really liked your work; I hope you don't mind but I included it in the EP wiki here, etc etc"
2) specifically cite the person in the wiki thanking them for their work; if one person has made a lot of stuff you should consider adding their name as a tag
3) make the first "edit" of the wiki their version as posted (fixing spelling is OK) -- that way it's clear in revisions what the start point was

There doesn't seem to be a huge amount of activity... maybe heading for low hanging fruit is better.

Do we want to worry about protocol for editing people's stuff (beyond fixing typos...)

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I've switched srd for official since I think that will make more sense for everyone.

I agree on the spoiler tag suggestion as well and have added it as well.

How do we want to split up the task of getting the major structures of the setting up on the wiki? Or will that be more along the lines of first come first server volunteerism?

I agree with the copy over protocols. I would add that we also want to link to the original off-site post from our wiki entry for context, and respect requests by the original author not to be included.

re: Protocol for editing people's stuff - we do have the revision information, so it will be very obvious when something is modified. We also have the talk pages for discussion on the topic. I don't know if we need further protocol or not, have you had any experience in a wiki context that we should model ourselves after?

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Can we start filling out the wiki with more in-game data, like what we see in the Sixth World Wiki? Unlike SWW, all of this data is already open via CC. I ask because while I was reading about Nirvana, I noticed there's a list of names (presumably of Fall criminals) and I thought it might be good to actually start collecting this information somewhere.

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Go for it! Go, scoot, get started! Wink

I've been hoping the community would turn the wiki into something of a writer's bible where you can readily access system and setting information whenever you need it. I've not pushed it the last month or so as the Eye has really just eaten my dedicated Darkcast time. This isn't a closed garden site - you wanna add to the wiki, go forth and add! Wink

I'm hoping to secure the time as I get the rest of the Eye automation in place to be able to provide more concrete help as well with some actual entries. I know just encouraging it isn't really going to be enough in the long run to get action from more than the most dedicated (who probably didn't need much encouragement in the first place).

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I'm no good at wiki editing, but I guess I can learn...

Can we get a special attribute (and possibly an image) for canon vs. fan-based? Already I see three terms being used to differentiate, and that's going to become a real headache later. Ideally, we'd have one checkbox for Canon, one for Fan-based, and you can check both (for mixed content) or neither (for RL stuff, I guess).

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Hmm. Good idea to make it explicit as opposed to part of the tagging system. It shouldn't be too hard to do, but we'll want to go back through the existing articles and flag each. Lemme get back to this one once the Eye is out? Remind me if I don't get you an update then.

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Question: I just created this account last night, and I currently don't seem to have the ability to edit the wiki. Is there a certain time limit that will have to pass before I can, to help weed out spammers?

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You should have the power to, it might require you to post and prove you're actually a person. (We had a spambot zap our front page earlier this year.) Let me go check.

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